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		<title>By: Armen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Srinivas.

They sure do look at it that way, and that is one of the things that keeps competition lower. Anyone wanting quick results loses steam. You sure are building a solid foundation.

It sure is a popular book right now, as Gary is spreading it throughout the country.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Srinivas.</p>
<p>They sure do look at it that way, and that is one of the things that keeps competition lower. Anyone wanting quick results loses steam. You sure are building a solid foundation.</p>
<p>It sure is a popular book right now, as Gary is spreading it throughout the country.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Srinivas Rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Srinivas Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Armen,

It&#039;s interesting that you bring up patience. Most people like to look at blogging as  a get rich quick scheme and that&#039;s because they lack patience. I&#039;ve probably written a disproporationately high number of posts for the age of my blog, but I also think about it as the leg work for what I&#039;m doing.  I realize that it&#039;s something that will take patience.  You&#039;re the 4th person to mention this book in all the blogs I read, so I may have to venture over to borders today and read through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Armen,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you bring up patience. Most people like to look at blogging as  a get rich quick scheme and that&#8217;s because they lack patience. I&#8217;ve probably written a disproporationately high number of posts for the age of my blog, but I also think about it as the leg work for what I&#8217;m doing.  I realize that it&#8217;s something that will take patience.  You&#8217;re the 4th person to mention this book in all the blogs I read, so I may have to venture over to borders today and read through it.</p>
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		<title>By: Armen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alex.

That sure is a philosophy that anyone would be smart to absorb.  That is pretty special stuff about the photographic memory also.

I agree with that about the person who goes to 20% or 40% of completion is the same person who goes to 20% or 40% completion in other activities.  It took me a while to notice that, and your example is another valid way it shows up.

I hear you about the plan to outwork as described, and it is already visible with your article ranking 5th for the name of your school.

Glad to hear from you, and that friendly chat looks to be on the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alex.</p>
<p>That sure is a philosophy that anyone would be smart to absorb.  That is pretty special stuff about the photographic memory also.</p>
<p>I agree with that about the person who goes to 20% or 40% of completion is the same person who goes to 20% or 40% completion in other activities.  It took me a while to notice that, and your example is another valid way it shows up.</p>
<p>I hear you about the plan to outwork as described, and it is already visible with your article ranking 5th for the name of your school.</p>
<p>Glad to hear from you, and that friendly chat looks to be on the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Armen,

My philosophy so far in dental school has been. It doesn&#039;t matter if someone brings more brains to the table (a couple have photographic memory), no one is going to be able to say that they&#039;ve outworked me. 

So the people that are now saying that they don&#039;t care how they do, as long as they pass and get their license, are going to take that same attitude out into the world. They&#039;re going to say, &quot;as long as I pay rent, car, jewelry, I&#039;m done for the day.&quot; 

That&#039;s where I plan to come in, create quantum leaps in my business, expand, and absolutely outwork anyone in my industry. AKA CRUSH IT.

Thanks for mentioning me a long side Gary. I&#039;ve seen a couple of articles now that mention both of us, so I&#039;m waiting for him to contact me so we can have a friendly chat. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Armen,</p>
<p>My philosophy so far in dental school has been. It doesn&#8217;t matter if someone brings more brains to the table (a couple have photographic memory), no one is going to be able to say that they&#8217;ve outworked me. </p>
<p>So the people that are now saying that they don&#8217;t care how they do, as long as they pass and get their license, are going to take that same attitude out into the world. They&#8217;re going to say, &#8220;as long as I pay rent, car, jewelry, I&#8217;m done for the day.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I plan to come in, create quantum leaps in my business, expand, and absolutely outwork anyone in my industry. AKA CRUSH IT.</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning me a long side Gary. I&#8217;ve seen a couple of articles now that mention both of us, so I&#8217;m waiting for him to contact me so we can have a friendly chat. <img src='http://www.timelessinformation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Armen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven:  Good call there.  That lack of persistence sure does mean we cancel at some point, cutting off any chance of continuity.

Impatience is sometimes described as a good trait for people that want to do things quickly, but I don&#039;t think they are impatient so much as pushing toward their goal.  If they were actually impatient they would quit their big goal due to it taking much time.

Cool to hear from you.

Tristan: I hear you there.  That does sound just right, and makes one wonder if they are at a disadvantage when pursuing a goal and having less at stake than someone else pursuing the goal who has less.  It is a bit counter-intuitive, but is worth thinking about.  Re-framing a situation to realize that the goal is worth making the &quot;main event&quot; looks to be the way to bring back that hunger, because no one wants to miss out on the &quot;main event&quot;.

Good call on the direct message about the younger generation.

Eric: The book sure does have some valuable points in it, especially for us in this domain.  I can think of a few things off the top of my head that I gained from the material in it.

Your analogy about how there is fast food around is one I agree with.  There is all this fast food around, when what we need to be doing is cooking.  We have to make fast food the enemy of sorts, and slowly cooking food the item to partake in.  It isn&#039;t worth it to mess with &quot;fast food&quot; anyway.  Since we always have hunger, if we cut out any chance of using &quot;fast food&quot; to satiate it, we will resort to the better nourishment, and that is what we have to do.  Thanks for your thoughts.

John: Hey, yeah it was cool.  I was excited too.  I would say that one of the main things I gained by actually meeting Gary is a better sense of how he is crushing it.  He&#039;s whipping through the country doing things that haven&#039;t been done, turning bookstores into his playground whereas other big authors hope for 20 people to be in the store for them at a time.  You start to realize how much more he is pushing it than basically everyone in his domain, and the principles behind it are what he talks about regularly.  Also, the fact that he could tell the audience their problems directly, and then leave them to work through what is holding them back(if they take the heavy initiative), is the kind of directness that I appreciate hearing.

Thanks for that and I think we are both relevant users of the material of his book.

Josh: Hey to you.  It is nice that you pointed that out.  I am switching to a &quot;if I read the article, I comment on it&quot; mindset now, because I have read so many articles that I left my thoughts out of.

Good point about it not being natural to be patient.  That point about watching reality TV might seem like a joke to some readers, but that is almost exactly what happens.  Frustration sets in for someone, and then quitting occurs, and then they head directly to watch a reality TV show, or some other item that won&#039;t benefit them in any way.  Creators of reality TV, and other related garbage, use folks weaknesses pretty well.

Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven:  Good call there.  That lack of persistence sure does mean we cancel at some point, cutting off any chance of continuity.</p>
<p>Impatience is sometimes described as a good trait for people that want to do things quickly, but I don&#8217;t think they are impatient so much as pushing toward their goal.  If they were actually impatient they would quit their big goal due to it taking much time.</p>
<p>Cool to hear from you.</p>
<p>Tristan: I hear you there.  That does sound just right, and makes one wonder if they are at a disadvantage when pursuing a goal and having less at stake than someone else pursuing the goal who has less.  It is a bit counter-intuitive, but is worth thinking about.  Re-framing a situation to realize that the goal is worth making the &#8220;main event&#8221; looks to be the way to bring back that hunger, because no one wants to miss out on the &#8220;main event&#8221;.</p>
<p>Good call on the direct message about the younger generation.</p>
<p>Eric: The book sure does have some valuable points in it, especially for us in this domain.  I can think of a few things off the top of my head that I gained from the material in it.</p>
<p>Your analogy about how there is fast food around is one I agree with.  There is all this fast food around, when what we need to be doing is cooking.  We have to make fast food the enemy of sorts, and slowly cooking food the item to partake in.  It isn&#8217;t worth it to mess with &#8220;fast food&#8221; anyway.  Since we always have hunger, if we cut out any chance of using &#8220;fast food&#8221; to satiate it, we will resort to the better nourishment, and that is what we have to do.  Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
<p>John: Hey, yeah it was cool.  I was excited too.  I would say that one of the main things I gained by actually meeting Gary is a better sense of how he is crushing it.  He&#8217;s whipping through the country doing things that haven&#8217;t been done, turning bookstores into his playground whereas other big authors hope for 20 people to be in the store for them at a time.  You start to realize how much more he is pushing it than basically everyone in his domain, and the principles behind it are what he talks about regularly.  Also, the fact that he could tell the audience their problems directly, and then leave them to work through what is holding them back(if they take the heavy initiative), is the kind of directness that I appreciate hearing.</p>
<p>Thanks for that and I think we are both relevant users of the material of his book.</p>
<p>Josh: Hey to you.  It is nice that you pointed that out.  I am switching to a &#8220;if I read the article, I comment on it&#8221; mindset now, because I have read so many articles that I left my thoughts out of.</p>
<p>Good point about it not being natural to be patient.  That point about watching reality TV might seem like a joke to some readers, but that is almost exactly what happens.  Frustration sets in for someone, and then quitting occurs, and then they head directly to watch a reality TV show, or some other item that won&#8217;t benefit them in any way.  Creators of reality TV, and other related garbage, use folks weaknesses pretty well.</p>
<p>Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hanagarne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Hanagarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armen, this is the first time I&#039;ve commented here, but I&#039;m usually skulking around in the wings.  I like what you do, my friend.

People aren&#039;t patient because it isn&#039;t natural.  The easy way out is what&#039;s natural most of the time.  Patience takes work and self-scrutiny and it&#039;s much easier to be angry and frustrated and lash out and watch reality TV.  

But that doesn&#039;t mean we quit trying.  We are not everyone else, and that is why we are in control of our lives.  

Great post, buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armen, this is the first time I&#8217;ve commented here, but I&#8217;m usually skulking around in the wings.  I like what you do, my friend.</p>
<p>People aren&#8217;t patient because it isn&#8217;t natural.  The easy way out is what&#8217;s natural most of the time.  Patience takes work and self-scrutiny and it&#8217;s much easier to be angry and frustrated and lash out and watch reality TV.  </p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean we quit trying.  We are not everyone else, and that is why we are in control of our lives.  </p>
<p>Great post, buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sick! You actually met Gary! (I&#039;m so jealous!) 

I&#039;ve already read his book Crush IT! and know exactly what you&#039;re talking about. Keep on hustling, keep on trying, and keep moving forward towards your passion. This is why I love Gary.

I&#039;m so happy for you. Glad to see that you met him and got inspired :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sick! You actually met Gary! (I&#8217;m so jealous!) </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already read his book Crush IT! and know exactly what you&#8217;re talking about. Keep on hustling, keep on trying, and keep moving forward towards your passion. This is why I love Gary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so happy for you. Glad to see that you met him and got inspired <img src='http://www.timelessinformation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I have another book to add to my Amazon wish list.  I like the tying of hunger to patience.  To take it quite literal, we often forget the patience it takes to feed ourselves these days, with fast food so close at hand.  It takes much more patience to actually cook your food, and could you even imagine the patience it would take to grow your own food?  Hunger would be the driving force in this, and patience would be the vehicle to get you there.

We must have both hunger and patience to reach our goals.  Great post Armen, and thank you for sharing your experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I have another book to add to my Amazon wish list.  I like the tying of hunger to patience.  To take it quite literal, we often forget the patience it takes to feed ourselves these days, with fast food so close at hand.  It takes much more patience to actually cook your food, and could you even imagine the patience it would take to grow your own food?  Hunger would be the driving force in this, and patience would be the vehicle to get you there.</p>
<p>We must have both hunger and patience to reach our goals.  Great post Armen, and thank you for sharing your experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you are not hungry are do not have to worry about an empty stomach, you will not be hungry. 

Similarly, when you are too comfortable in your own skin, and do not have to worry about anything in life, you will not be hungry.

I think if we don&#039;t have something at stake, we won&#039;t be hungry for success. I think that&#039;s what one of things Gary means when he compared the younger generation to the older generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are not hungry are do not have to worry about an empty stomach, you will not be hungry. </p>
<p>Similarly, when you are too comfortable in your own skin, and do not have to worry about anything in life, you will not be hungry.</p>
<p>I think if we don&#8217;t have something at stake, we won&#8217;t be hungry for success. I think that&#8217;s what one of things Gary means when he compared the younger generation to the older generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Armen, your post provided some great points from Gary Vaynerchuk who said that lack of patience is why we fail.

That is very true, because a lack of patience means lack of persistence, which leads to a lack of consistent improvement and learning. If we don&#039;t have consistent improvements how can we ever succeed or even maintain it?

Anyways, I like how you connected to the lack of patience with the lack of hunger. And like Eduard said, they do seem to contradict each other. 

While I do have to say that when you are hungry enough for a particular aspect in your life, especially in desperation/inspiration, great efforts will be put in with PASSION. And when you continually work on something with passion, there will be more senses of excitement than impatience.

I see impatience as the unappreciative and apathetic attitude towards our goals. Meaning probably the goal itself doesn&#039;t really mean much to ignite a &quot;fire&quot; in us.

Anyways, i&#039;ve written too long of a comment, thanks for the great post. You&#039;ve nicely reminded me to be patient and persistent (which is one of my MAJOR weaknesses). 

Steven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Armen, your post provided some great points from Gary Vaynerchuk who said that lack of patience is why we fail.</p>
<p>That is very true, because a lack of patience means lack of persistence, which leads to a lack of consistent improvement and learning. If we don&#8217;t have consistent improvements how can we ever succeed or even maintain it?</p>
<p>Anyways, I like how you connected to the lack of patience with the lack of hunger. And like Eduard said, they do seem to contradict each other. </p>
<p>While I do have to say that when you are hungry enough for a particular aspect in your life, especially in desperation/inspiration, great efforts will be put in with PASSION. And when you continually work on something with passion, there will be more senses of excitement than impatience.</p>
<p>I see impatience as the unappreciative and apathetic attitude towards our goals. Meaning probably the goal itself doesn&#8217;t really mean much to ignite a &#8220;fire&#8221; in us.</p>
<p>Anyways, i&#8217;ve written too long of a comment, thanks for the great post. You&#8217;ve nicely reminded me to be patient and persistent (which is one of my MAJOR weaknesses). </p>
<p>Steven</p>
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